tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049100705786633064.post3217035518193670598..comments2024-01-20T02:06:45.388-08:00Comments on The Political Omnivore: How to Argue With: A BernieOrBusterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049100705786633064.post-82052271600889782902018-07-30T23:53:28.340-07:002018-07-30T23:53:28.340-07:00The bernie or bust hashtag was Russian AstroTurf, ...The bernie or bust hashtag was Russian AstroTurf, not a local movement. But it is a double straw man. Hillary won more Bernie voters than Obama won Hillary voters, but still lost.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />Obama won on false hope. Hillary lost doubling down on that false hope. Simple as that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049100705786633064.post-2404907852160950092018-07-29T18:37:41.782-07:002018-07-29T18:37:41.782-07:00The margin of Trump's victory was smaller than...The margin of Trump's victory was smaller than the number of Stein voters in Michigan and Wisconsin, so yes, they had a significant effect on the election. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/308353-trump-won-by-smaller-margin-than-stein-votes-in-all-threeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049100705786633064.post-36546125615182918952018-07-29T16:50:51.875-07:002018-07-29T16:50:51.875-07:00They all seem to be body counters as well.They all seem to be body counters as well.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451670631703609720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049100705786633064.post-68920944532119253822018-07-29T15:22:22.822-07:002018-07-29T15:22:22.822-07:00The only explanation that makes sense to me is tha...The only explanation that makes sense to me is that most of them thought Hillary was going to win, and to be fair most people also thought that, and so they were making a protest vote that had no consequences. People absolutely do stupid things if they think nothing is going to happen to them as a result.<br /><br />And, it's also worth pointing out, many of their votes genuinely didn't matter. If you were a Bernie-Or-Bust-er in California, for instance, voting for Trump didn't affect the outcome of the election at all. I'd be curious to know if someone has actually put together data on swing states and the Bernie-or-bust voters, whether they actually had a significant effect on the election itself.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10797570325196999877noreply@blogger.com